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右代宮 理御 || Ushiromiya Lion ([personal profile] llywelin) wrote in [community profile] gocirclegogo2011-10-21 11:00 pm

I STILL KNOW YOU ALL LOOKED: THE MEME

a.k.a. that time Kisha shoved a bunch of shit together and called it good.


1. Post you character.
2. Comment to other people and pick a scenario. Or use the RNG (1-12) to pick one for you.
3. Pick a scenario within the scenario. Memes within memes! Or use that handy RNG to pick it for you.
4. Do this as many times as you like until you're bored with it all. UNLIMITED THREADS.
5. OPTIONAL: combine a bunch of memes and scenarios for one strange thread of whacked out weirdness. Handcuffed to an escort while you have amnesia? WHY NOT?
6. Not optional: HAVE FUN.



1. FLUFF MEME

1 - Cuddling - for some reason you both just want to be close to each other, constantly touching and snuggling.
2 - Pillow Talk - it's the morning after (or immediately after) and you're up for some pillow talk.
3 - Celebration - maybe it's Christmas or your birthday or a special anniversary or something else but it's just a good day to celebrate something.
4 - Cheering Up - One or both of you is feeling down and it's time to try and cheer up or at least talk about it.
5 - Making up - you had a huge fight with someone who meant a lot to you and now it's time to make it up to them.
6 - Date Night - casual date, romantic date, your usual special thing or awkward first date, whatever goes!
7 - Apologies - you did something wrong to hurt the other person and now you'd do anything to make it up to them.
8 - Been awhile - maybe you've been busy or away or just haven't gotten a chance to relax together in a while.
9 - Needing a friend - you just need someone to hang out with.
10 - In the Snow - it's a winter wonderland! let's play in the snow!
11 - Flirtation - a little flirting with each other can't hurt, right?
12 - Caught a sniffle - you're down with the flu or some injury or just got hurt (emotionally, mentally, whatever) but you're in good hands.
13 - Gifts - it's time to give that special someone a gift just because you can.
14 - Defend You - You're fighting for someone you care about and you'll do it to the end if you have to.



2. PARANOIA MEME

1. Erotomania - that person loves you. they belong to you. they might deny it and be with someone else but they're ridiculous. you know better here.
2. Distrust - simple as it sounds, you're being lied to. you can't prove it but you're not falling for their tricks anymore.
3. Hallucinations - a vague classic. those sounds, those sights, your senses are screwed up and the world is upside down. there's plenty of senses to screw.
4. Tainted - you're completely wrong. is it in your family's blood? is it parasites? a disease? aliens? a sin? but it's consuming you, whatever it is.
5. Conspiracy - why are they after you? who knows. maybe you know. but everyone is in on it and you're the only one left fighting against it.
6. Control - your actions aren't your own, even if others insist they are. somehow, either drugs or magic or something, someone is making you their puppet.
7. Fixation - either it's in you or someone else or a thing but this imperfection is clawing at your mind. just fix it. fix it and you can rest.
8. Folie à deux - the more either you or the other person talks, the more you feed into this unease and the more real it sounds. what can you two alone do?
9. Replacements - is it just this person or is everyone being replaced with a fake? you're not a fake, though. you won't let them replace you.
10. Real - is any of this real? maybe you're dreaming or drugged. maybe you're dead. but you need to prove that this is really happening, whatever it takes.



3. Virtue & Vice Meme
Roll to see if you get a virtue or a vice, then which of the seven you are. The matching one can go to the other person! Or mix them up if you like! Whatever you want goes.

1. Virtue

1) Chastity
2) Temperance
3) Charity
4) Diligence
5) Patience
6) Kindness
7) Humility


2. Vice

1) Lust
2) Gluttony
3) Greed
4) Sloth
5) Wrath
6) Envy
7) Pride



4. The... IDK meme

1. You are affectionate and clingy, and you won't want to leave the side of the person.
2. You are compelled to kiss the person.
3. You need to spill a secret to this person ASAP.
4. You will try to seduce the person.
5. You want to lie to this person.
6. You will try to insult this person.
7. You want to slap this person.
8. You will try to fight this person.



5. The Types of Love Meme

1. Love at First Sight - or maybe second or third or fifth sight. either way, you see that person now and you're head over heels.
2. Challenge - so maybe they're aloof or taken or you're just friends. supposedly they wouldn't go for you like that. oh really? challenge accepted.
3. Forbidden - age difference, you're both in relationships, whatever. for some reason this love shouldn't be. but it's okay if you just act on it once, right?
4. Tsundere - it's not like I like you or anything! don't get the wrong idea. but this time you're really going to make sure they know how you feel, even if you don't feel anything for them! really! stop looking at me like that!
5. Drunk - getting drunk was a great idea. and damn, they look beautiful. and awesome. great ideas are being had and need to be acted on.
6. Crush - stammering and blushing and oh god they're sitting with you and your hands brushed together oh god. it's just a stupid crush.
7. Possessive - this might not even be love but you certainly own the other person. and you're the only one who will decide what happens to them and what they do.
8. Yandere - ah, they're just so wonderful and perfect and the sun rises and sets on them. ...hey, why are they talking to other people? oh, well, you'll put a stop to that.
9. New Benefits - so you've been happy with the sex together because you guys had a line and it remained uncrossed. but you're starting to want something more...



6. The Sexy Stuff Meme

1) Seven Minutes in Heaven - So you're locked together, either someone did it to you as a joke or you're idiots. But you're sitting so close and if your lips happen to touch...
2) Chicken - It's just a game to see how far you guys can go before someone chickens out. You're not going to lose, right? They'll freak out way before anything happens.
3) Instructions - Admit it: you know nothing about this stuff. But you really, really want to know. You'll find out from this person, one way or another! Or maybe they're the one that needs education.
4) Adrenaline - What a rush! Whatever you guys just did has you really pumped. You're riding a great high and it's time to live in the moment.
5) Romance - Pure and simple, you'll make this the most romantic night ever. At least by your definition of romantic.
6) Roleplay - Teacher and student, dom and sub, enemies, strangers, playing doctor, you're just suddenly really, really into it.
7) Addiction - It came out of nowhere but something about how they look today got you going. You just need them, to touch them or smell them or pin them...
8) Substitution - You don't really love or want this person. But they remind you of people or places or something you actually do want. It's okay to get your fill from them for now. How badly you're using them is up to you.
9) What Happened? - No, really, what just happened? One second you guys were doing one thing and suddenly you're all over each other. What the hell?
10) Give and Take - Either you really want to show your appreciation or you feel you're owed something but a little (or a lot) of give and take is on the agenda.



7. Awkward Situations Meme

1. The Talk - Can anything really get more awkward than having that explained to you? Probably not.
2. Age - Mentally or physically, you're younger now! Do you still have your memories? Better get some help with this and hope tomorrow isn't too weird.
3. Gender Swap - Huh, that wasn't there yesterday. Your wardrobe might need some adjusting.
4. That One Night - Things got a little hot and heavy and neither of you are exactly keen to look each other in the face for a while. Except you have to deal with each other all day. Good luck.
5. Dead Body - No way you guys were drunk enough to murder someone, right? Maybe it's just a...dead dog or something. But there's a corpse that wasn't there before. Shit, what now?
6. Handcuffed - The old classic of waking up with impossible handcuffs keeping you guys together.
7. Naked - Somehow you got stuck naked far away from clothes. At least someone will help you and not make it worse, right...?
8. Clothes - Opposite of above! Good lord you look like a fetish fantasy. Quick, get behind that tree.
9. Bail - Maybe you were in the wrong place at the wrong time or you earned it but someone needs to bail you out.
10. Knock First - Oh, uh, they were really, really busy last time you stopped by. Really busy. Uh. Today is a new day?



8. The Arguments Meme

1) wandering eye - You're fed up with how much they flirt with everyone. That shit isn't cool, whether or not you're interested in them that way. It's just bad.
2) cinderella - You do all the work and they never lift a finger. They can do their own damn laundry.
3) forgotten - Yeah, sure, they've been real busy all right: with everyone but you. Would it kill them to spend time with you?
4) beliefs - Usually you don't say anything but they act like their way of thinking is better than yours. Correct them.
5) better - Okay, you can admit they're better at some things but they make you feel so stupid! You're not an idiot!
6) easy - No one gets how hard your life has been. You listen to them complain about their easy lives but you're the one with a real sob story! Hear some real misery, kid.
7) aftermath - So maybe you should apologise for the last fight but they need to first! They started it! It's their own fault.
8) perfect - Yeah, you're pretty awesome, but it's funny how all that praise is meaningless from them. Or maybe it's just that you know you're not good at all.
9) habit - Everyone has that one thing that annoys the shit out of them when the other person does it. This time, you snap.



9. The Bad Stuff Meme

1) Torture - You're being tortured or you're torturing but it's going to happen one way or another.
2) Kidnapped - You've been kidnapped! Is it for good reasons? Wait, who kidnaps for good reasons... Maybe you do?
3) Blackmail - Do you know a secret? Or do they know yours?
4) Disease - You're not just sick. You're really, really sick. And someone did this to you on purpose.
5) Drugged - Keeping someone drugged sounds like fun, right? Of course it does!
6) Stalker - Baby you'll be famous chase you down until you love me...
7) Bad Touch - That was definitely a 'no' you said. Or did they say it? Oh well, more touching.
8) Trapped - This time you're really cornered and there's no backing out.
9) Changed - You're aware it's happening but something is changing how you act and it's really not for the better.
10) Pain - Just inflicting pain of any kind will be enough. Emotional, physical, whatever. Too bad if they can't handle it.
11) Kill - Someone should die. Or maybe come very close to death. You can take your time on it, really.



10. Grab Bag

1) Unsent Letter - You really, really didn't mean for that letter to get back to them. What was in it? Well, they know now.
2) Dreaming - It might be a dream or a nightmare but you're in it together. Anything can and will happen!
3) Truth - The classic "can't stop telling the truth" offering.
4) Melodrama - You loved theatre, right? Time to get on those amazing ACTING!!!!! skills and BE DRAMATIC!!!! And WOE!!! to anyone who gets caught up in this AGONY!!!!!
5) No Filter - Not so much the truth so much as you can't keep your thoughts in your head. They just come right out. All of them.
6) Animals - You were just kidding when you said it would be fun to be part-whatever. But there are ears and a tail. Or maybe even more. Maybe you're a werewolf. Who knows!
7) Personality Flip - Your personality is all haywire today. You're definitely not yourself.
8) Fight - You're just itching for a fight. Oh look, there's one right there.
9) Truth or Dare - Why must you play? Doesn't matter but you must.
10) Opposite - Unlike truth, you just keep saying the opposite of what you mean. Someone gag you already, please.
alethiological: (Raymond Lisenba (d. 1942))

The One Kisha Dragged In

[personal profile] alethiological 2011-10-22 03:25 am (UTC)(link)

9-1, 10-5, 2-3

[personal profile] digitalemperor 2011-10-22 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
[Torture. Everyone loves it. Except probably the person experiencing it but, minor details. Not so minor to Mikado, who is having another one of those Bad Days. Maybe it's just that Will is a bad omen or something, but today has kind of sucked. Mikado's been drugged, hauled around, and put through pain he hadn't imagined and now he's not even sure what's real or not.]

[Don't mind him curling up into a fetal ball and crying. Again.]
alethiological: (Petronilla de Meath (d. 1324))

Someday they'll get a roll that isn't horrible

[personal profile] alethiological 2011-10-22 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
[For the best or the worst, at least Mikado is not alone. Since said bad omen is dumped next to him, eyes closed and bleeding sluggishly from some head injury hidden in his hairline. Larger and more worrying stains match along his entire chest and down one arm, and there's probably more, but they're not too obvious. Eyes closed, barely breathing, and he doesn't even move.

Except after whoever-it-was leaves, and the two are alone again. There's a heartbeat of silence. Two. Three. And he jerks upright just as easily as ever. Or not as easily, since he's hunched a bit. Probably wasn't even unconscious in the first place. Glaring at the door, then switching to staring at Mikado. Half a minute. Then back to lying on his side with a sigh.]


Stop crying. They're not even that good at it. Four out of ten. Five for effort. Children these days, can't even torture people properly, completely disgraceful...

[The muffled rant trails off to being inaudible, yanking at his hands to try and get out of the ties. It's more annoying than anything.]

Somehow I doubt it

[personal profile] digitalemperor 2011-10-22 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
[Mikado forces himself to wipe his eyes and try to sit up. But everything hurts. He didn't know he could hurt this much. It's not like he hasn't been hit a few times, but ultimately he's a pretty normal, weak person when it comes to physical things. He doesn't even like violence. When he thinks about the people who did this to him and Will... A surge of black emotions overtakes him for a moment, choking his reason and blinding eyes already swollen and red with tears and pain.]

...make them pay... [His voice is chilling, or would be to someone who wasn't like Will. There's a sense of apathetic hatred in it, a dull, angry coldness. It's the first thought to cross his mind. He didn't mean to say it aloud, but he's not even sure Will's really here. After all, Sonohara-san is right next to him.]

[He stares dully at the two--maybe they're both imaginary, or maybe they're both real. He hopes they aren't real, that would be awful. He shouldn't tell them that, but he can't seem not to.]

I hope you're not real. [His voice is tired, but at least nothing as bleak and eerie as the three words earlier. Just beaten down and hoarse.] Either of you. Then again I don't want to be alone either. I guess that's selfish of me, but I'm also very selfish. But if I'm being selfish I don't want to be here. I don't want to be tortured by a four out of ten or a two out of twenty or anything remotely like that.

[He closes his eyes because having them open hurts.] I want to complain more but then, if you're not real, it's just like talking to myself. So if I'm going to talk to myself I should probably reason a way out of this. If I think, I can escape this situation, I can find the means.

[He's silent for a second, as if listening, and he is listening, to the hallucination.] No, we have to go before they come back for you Sonohara-san. If they were able to overpower you then I don't want them to lay their hands on you either. So it's a time limit challenge.

[He's trying to sound upbeat but it's really failing.]
alethiological: (Styllou Christofi (d. 1954))

Come on, positive thinking!

[personal profile] alethiological 2011-10-22 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
[Oddly enough, the voice does get Will to stop. Staring at him momentarily with something unreadable. It's a subtle shift, like that time he first met the kid, but it was definitely there. That type of electric warning that would send anyone unused to it into the fight-or-flight reflex.

As it stands, he lets it go. Listening on Mikado's rambling as a type of focus, because while it wasn't effective or creative, the torture was meticulous, and it's hard to move his hand when the nerves are all but shot. But ignore it, focus on the white noise. Ignoring that spike from before, he's still a normal human. Probably cracked and started talking about any little thing that crossed his mind. Refers to a Sonohara and 'either of you' beforehand, so he's hallucinating on top it. Add to file: Sonohara, still focused even though he's rambling, possibly a psychopath. The rest?

Great. And there's a huff of irritation as he finally gives up, shooting a stare at the side of his head.]
Ignoring your skewed sense of reality, there's nothing wrong with talking to yourself. For some it's easier to think that way. Let's you sort out your feelings and observations so you don't go mad.

[For a moment, the words seem like something more. A type of calming presence that leaves a simple serenity. Some might coin the feeling as divine. A beat later, it's gone with the next sentence.]

If you're taking requests, you can start with something productive.

What could they even get that wouldn't be ridiculous?

[personal profile] digitalemperor 2011-10-22 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
[Mikado takes a deep breath, eyes blinking open. Whatever coldness was in him before is long gone, replaced with worry and pain and a general quiet determination that's still a lot more than just a timid, normal teenager. But at the same time not so alarming. He's got a sense of purpose now, and a feeling. That presence was gentle and reassuring. And it also reminded him he has responsibilities. Will may be an adult, but Mikado still feels a sense of responsibility. And a sense of his 'enemies'. He won't hesitate in a strategy to protect those he cares for, in that case, and to eliminate the threats.]

I'm sorry. I can't seem to stop saying whatever I am thinking, it could be really inconvenient if I wanted a strategy to talk this out. But I don't think there's reasoning with these people in the first place, so it's probably not a problem after all.

It's a little sad but I'm not sure if you or Sonohara-san are real. If you were, that would be really helpful, though also a bit pathetic, because having to rely on others in such a way, and a girl as well, it's not very manly, but I'm so useless when it's like this. Still, it would be great if you're both real, because being able to rely on two such extraordinary people in a plan would be useful.

Ah, and it's not like I can dismiss you either, because I want to make sure you both escape safely no matter what. But I guess ultimately the plan has to rely only on me, as well. This is a little tricky. But I can't complain as we don't even have a plan.

I don't think escaping while we're confined like this is very likely--unless Sonohara-san is real, that might make it possible. But that aside, our best chance is when they come back to take one of us. But that will also be when they're most guarded.

[He sighs.] I wish I had a more innovative thought, but I guess my thoughts really only do match up to cliches. I wonder why I'm so limited?

If I distract and trip them up while you two ambush them, that would only work if you're real. Should I rely on that? They're probably used to simple tactics like that though.
alethiological: (Lucilio Vanini (d. 1619))

Something mundane that would end up ridiculous anyway

[personal profile] alethiological 2011-10-22 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
[Addition, Sonohara's apparently a girl, and the kid broke so bad he has no brain-to-mouth filter anymore. Factor in the hallucinations, possibly drugged. But between the endless rambling and analyzing Mikado's every movement, the expression stands out the most.

Acts like the average kid, regardless of whether it's completely nuts or not, there was something with potential in there. Probably stifled with how much he beats himself up. Might be worth looking into later. Added to the mental filing. Glaring off at the wall afterward, focusing on keeping a proper thought lined up between the headache, the claustrophobia, and the endless rambling of Mikado.]


If you're limited, then practice thinking out of the catbox.

[Inhale. Exhale. Closed room, only one exit, locked from the outside, no keys. Solutions. Getting a key inside, break the door, wait for someone to open from the outside. For the latter, could it be done with a lure or waiting. In both cases, how. First problem.] Whether we're real or not, the restrictions should be a concern before escape plans. I can't get out with my arm like this. What about you?

Exactly so

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alethiological: (Henri de Fleury de Coulan (d. 1666))

worst seduction attempt ever, GO

[personal profile] alethiological 2011-10-22 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
[Being busy isn't a new thing, even if it's a bit depressing, but the point remains. It's not a new thing. In a way, it's actually more normal than the day to day monotony eroding every sensation like acid. Yet, he's still sitting, lost in his reading and oblivious to Lion taking a forever and half to get ready.

Then the question gets asked and he jerks up, looking over at her with that blank expression he gets whenever someone shakes him out of his thoughts. He does consider it, incredibly seriously, and her answer is the most eloquent of responses.]


... What?
alethiological: (Edith Thompson (d. 1923))

[personal profile] alethiological 2011-10-22 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
[The expression stays. By this point it's obvious it wasn't because there wasn't anything, but because the question was so out of left field. It still is. Though the realization she's actually serious gets a hesitation.

She's actually serious about this.

Really. Flat stare afterward as the thought finally sinks. And he doesn't even have to think about it before his answer.]
Your hair. When you leave it down, you're breathtaking.

[Will's the only type who could pull off that line completely seriously. And right back to his book.]
alethiological: (Johannes Junius (d. 1628))

[personal profile] alethiological 2011-10-22 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
[Her barely hitting casual makes it come off more as awkward. She gets another glance over the top of his pages. Beat. Two. Three. Back to the words.]

Go ahead. It's up to you.

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6-8, 5-5, 1-9

[personal profile] intellectualrapist 2011-10-24 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
[It's probably not too late at night yet. Or at least the time is around after Lion has passed out and before Will has decided to sneak in his nightly nap. That time of night when Erika likes to scale up the walls of the house and tap on the window. Like she's doing now!

For the detective who is sober, notes: the tapping is a little slower and louder than it usually would be, as though possibly someone is not exactly in complete control of her motor skills at the moment. And yet she still manages this. Good job, Erika.]
alethiological: (Chidiock Tichborne (d. 1586))

[personal profile] alethiological 2011-10-25 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
[He had been expecting it in a way. Only in that her visits are always at the same time, even if not every day, so at the knock he pauses. The difference is obvious, but at least she still has enough coherency to make some attempt at being covert.

Either way he closes his book. Takes another few seconds to wrench himself from Lion's death vice without waking her. Then wandering over to open the window and stare down at her, only wincing a bit at the smell of alcohol coming off of her. Another mental strike against his life.]
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[personal profile] intellectualrapist 2011-10-25 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
[The slight wince, while noticed, is not commented on. At least right now. At the moment, Erika is trying to prop herself up on the window's edge without falling or making too much noise.]

Willard, come outside. Tonight it feels like it's expanding. [Or she's drunk. Whatever.] Come on, you must be bored of being a pillow.

[On the bright side, she's not talking too loudly but it's still louder than she should be.]
alethiological: (Anne de Chantraine (d. 1622))

[personal profile] alethiological 2011-10-25 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
[Erika, if you said that organization of words to anyone else, their reactions would be far stranger. Instead she gets the flattest of flat stares, because the chance of it actually easing off is far less likely than her just being plastered. Waving a hand in the motion of 'shut up shut up you're too loud'.]

Be quiet. [And taking a glance back at Lion. At least she's unconscious. Humoring that cat he babysits while she's drunk shouldn't take too long.

Sigh.]
Fine. Go wait at the front door, I'll be right down.
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[personal profile] intellectualrapist 2011-10-25 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
[Erika grins because hey, she wins! Winning makes her happy.] 'Good.' I'll be waiting. Hurry up.

[And like Batman or Spiderman or some disturbed hero that jumps off buildings, she jumps down and can probably be heard skittering across the house. Yeah she's a creeper.

And she will be standing right in front of the door.]
alethiological: (Katharina Henot (d. 1627))

[personal profile] alethiological 2011-10-25 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
[Again with the gratuitous English. Listening to her skitter off, idly wondering how she does that so well even while intoxicated. Either years of skill or stupidly talented, and either one applied to stalking is disturbing.

Either way he's downstairs shortly enough, tugging a coat on and freezing momentarily because she's right there when he opens it.

Immediately shutting the door. No drunk cats in the house.]
Happy now?

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clinical: (it's easy when you know how it's done)

you know what roll this is

[personal profile] clinical 2011-10-25 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
[Knock knock knockin' on Willard's door.

Don't open it, Will. It isn't safe.]
alethiological: (Genrikh Yagoda (d. 1938))

oh god jade GET OUT

[personal profile] alethiological 2011-10-25 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
[He doesn't know that yet. And it's quick to tell he's actually working instead of lazing around, since the response is immediate and agitated.]

What.
clinical: (why do some show no mercy?)

it's his house, he pays the bills

[personal profile] clinical 2011-10-25 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
[Jade pauses. Will, at work? It seems like such a rare and precious thing that it would be immoral to disturb it.]

[So he steps in.]
I had a small concern, and Lion suggested I consult with you.
alethiological: (Henri de Fleury de Coulan (d. 1666))

that is not a good enough reason to keep dictionaries from flying at your head

[personal profile] alethiological 2011-10-25 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
[The look shot at it him irritated for about two seconds until it drops to something between wariness and completely flat, tentatively termed the "oh god it's jade" look.

And Lion rebounded him no less. Already internally bracing for something horrible as he slams shut the law book he was flipping through.]
If it's 'small', then why are you bothering me? What is it?
clinical: (or just another sentimental aside)

it's okay, he learned the AD Skill "Sidestep" levels and levels ago

[personal profile] clinical 2011-10-25 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
[Jade is really very pleased that Will recognizes the signs and has a look for it. Really, this is why he enjoys being alive.]

[His expression doesn't change at all.]


Given her complications, it seemed unlikely, but I'm not fully aware of the abilities of angels from your world. Now that you're having sex, I thought it important to confirm that you won't be able to get her pregnant.
alethiological: (John Louis Evans (d. 1983))

at least he gets a lot of use out of it

[personal profile] alethiological 2011-10-25 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
[No response at first, just staring at him blankly. Then after the ten seconds of flatline, the words register, and he buries his face in one hand. Right when he thinks he's prepared for the Jade-isms, there Jade is. With something worse.

Filed away: Lion is going to pay for rebounding this. And the sigh as his thoughts start up again half a minute later is proof of that.]


Your tact is worse than mine. No I can't, and what complications are you talking about?

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