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obedient ([personal profile] obedient) wrote in [community profile] gocirclegogo2011-11-16 01:02 am

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[Kida is upstairs in his room, flopping on his bed and closing his eyes. If his eyes are closed he can ignore how creepy his room really is, because...thanks Izaya.]
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[personal profile] intellectualrapist 2011-11-18 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't worry. I'd be more confused if you liked me.

[But she shakes her head at that. Leave it to an Umineko meta character to feel the need to talk about this.]

Actually, it's a very common narrative device for the hero to learn an important lesson from the villain. It's because it feels hollow and like a slap in the face that it becomes meaningful. Of course, there are different common paths from that point. One is that the intention of the author was to parallel the similarities between the hero and the villain. You know, the whole "we're not so different" angle. From there, the hero sometimes turns into an antihero or has to take a journey of self-discovery to become worthy of being a hero again.

Another is that the hero has already become an antihero or even villain by that point. This is usually considered a wake-up call moment where the hero realises he is worse than the villain in some way. That leads to sub-path two from the previous example.

Sometimes it's actually to garner sympathy for the villain. The reader realises the villain may be cruel and terrible but that there's a person under there. Naturally, the hero realises this as well. Then conflict of morals and emotions can be had as the hero debates what their quest really means and what their goal against the villain will actually do.

One last example is that hero blindly refuses the villain's advice and ends up causing some sort of tragedy because of it. This is usually used to humanise the villain and also provide a moment of reflection for the hero. Often times this specific device is used when the hero has a habit of repeating rash actions and mistakes.

Do you understand? That is to say, even if I'm the villain and you're the hero, it neither makes you bad for listening to me nor makes me good for giving you useful advice.
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[personal profile] intellectualrapist 2011-11-18 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, not necessarily. Those were just examples when the villain is right. I don't think it's arrogant of me to say that I am, however, right in this case. My only ulterior motive is the same as the surface motive, meaning his happiness.

If it's difficult for you, just think of it like a story, got it? The villain is cautioning the hero and the hero has to decide what to do with that.
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[personal profile] intellectualrapist 2011-11-19 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
You're definitely not a villain. At best, maybe you could be an antihero but that's really stretching it, too. You have too strong a moral compass, even if it spins around easily, it isn't broken or too determined in one direction.

As far as side character goes, if we're assuming Mikado is the main character, you're probably a secondary character. It doesn't promise you immunity but traditionally it does cross out a lot of possibilities. You can still be a hero in Mikado's tale. Bands of heroes are common. In that case, you aren't replaceable.